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    folks, what model of 700 (and scope) would you suggest for +500 yard varmint shooting? one person suggested a LEUPOLD 4.5X14 TACT. SCOPE, would that be a good choice?

    we have small caliber 22-250, .243 etc..... but as the coyotes get smarter through the winter need to reach out a little further.

    Was planning on going with .308 round, we have heavy winds and the occasional 700 yard shots come up. but open to suggestions....

    i dont want to skimp on quality and dont mind spending good money for a solid rig and keep the coyotes out of the livestock!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike
    folks, what model of 700 (and scope) would you suggest for +500 yard varmint shooting? one person suggested a LEUPOLD 4.5X14 TACT. SCOPE, would that be a good choice?

    we have small caliber 22-250, .243 etc..... but as the coyotes get smarter through the winter need to reach out a little further.

    Was planning on going with .308 round, we have heavy winds and the occasional 700 yard shots come up. but open to suggestions....

    i dont want to skimp on quality and dont mind spending good money for a solid rig and keep the coyotes out of the livestock!

    A .308 would serve you well even out past 700yrds. depending on how you do you shooting would depend on which model...i.e: stationary,stalk, etc..I think you would be happy with a 700 LTR(light tactical rifle) in .308. as for optics, you cant really go wrong with a leupold. a 14x vari-x III tactical would be the best bang for the buck in my opinion.

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    Well, I'm partial to the .243 for long range shooting. Rather than spend money on another rifle, I'd rebarrel the 243 that you have with an 8 twist 243 or .243 Ackley Improved barrel, You will be able to take coyotes out to 1000 yard easy with it. The Ackley will drive 105 AMAX bullets at 3000 FPS. They have a BC of .500. At 500 yards it will drop about 60 inches and the 308 with a 170 SMK has a BC of .505 but only runs around 2600 FPS so it drops 74 1/4 inches at 500 yards. In a ten MPH wind the .243 will need 2.8 minutes of correction and the .308 will need 31/4 minutes. Long range shooting is all about BC.

    My solution has been to call the coyotes in closer. If the dying rabbit call fails to work, try a Turkey call with a decoy. No matter which call I use, I like to have a decoy out to take his attention away from me.

    ETA: 4.5 - 14 scope would work fine.

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    I'd try to find an older 700VS or Sendero in .25-06, put on a 4.5-14 or 6.5-20 VX III Leupold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrschmitt
    Well, I'm partial to the .243 for long range shooting. Rather than spend money on another rifle, I'd rebarrel the 243 that you have with an 8 twist 243 or .243 Ackley Improved barrel, You will be able to take coyotes out to 1000 yard easy with it. The Ackley will drive 105 AMAX bullets at 3000 FPS. They have a BC of .500. At 500 yards it will drop about 60 inches and the 308 with a 170 SMK has a BC of .505 but only runs around 2600 FPS so it drops 74 1/4 inches at 500 yards. In a ten MPH wind the .243 will need 2.8 minutes of correction and the .308 will need 31/4 minutes. Long range shooting is all about BC.

    My solution has been to call the coyotes in closer. If the dying rabbit call fails to work, try a Turkey call with a decoy. No matter which call I use, I like to have a decoy out to take his attention away from me.

    ETA: 4.5 - 14 scope would work fine.
    Jerry,
    Kill coyotes easily at 1000 yards? What rig are you shooting and what kind of groups do you get at that distance? I'd love to have one! I can't see it with a factory rifle.

    I think the .243 is the best choice too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ba_50
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    In a ten MPH wind the .243 will need 2.8 minutes of correction and the .308 will need 31/4 minutes. Long range shooting is all about BC.

    My solution has been to call the coyotes in closer. If the dying rabbit call fails to work, try a Turkey call with a decoy. No matter which call I use, I like to have a decoy out to take his attention away from me.

    ETA: 4.5 - 14 scope would work fine.
    Jerry,
    Kill coyotes easily at 1000 yards? What rig are you shooting and what kind of groups do you get at that distance? I'd love to have one! I can't see it with a factory rifle.

    I think the .243 is the best choice too.
    First I'll edit my above coments. That should be 28 minutes of correction not 2.8. Then....You're right, you won't do it with a factory rifle.
    This is my .243 Ackley Improved. Photo taken this year on our Praire dog shoot.


    And this is how it shoots at 100 yards.



    Right now I'm working with Sierra 100 gr Gameking bullets @ 3100 FPS



    This dog was hit with a .243 75 gr NBT at 925 yards using a 4.5 - 14 VXIII.

    Lots of room for long range shooting here.


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    Jerry,

    What kind of barrel, trigger, and powder are you using? .272" should do very well at 1000. Have you actually tried it?

    I started a post on 6mmbr.com asking about results with the .243 under .243 section. Might get some useful information out of it. Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by ba_50
    Jerry,

    What kind of barrel, trigger, and powder are you using? .272" should do very well at 1000. Have you actually tried it?

    I started a post on 6mmbr.com asking about results with the .243 under .243 section. Might get some useful information out of it. Bob
    I have two rifles, just alike except for caliber. Both are Remington 700 actions that have been trued. Barrels are 8 twist no turn neck Lilja 3 groove, Scopes are Leupold 6.5-20 VX3. The .243 Ackley has a Shilen 2 0z bench rest trigger and the 6BR has a 2 oz Jewell. Both stocks are Remington 40X take offs.

    With the 100 SGK bullets I'm using 4831SC. Other bullets get different powders.

    We didn't find any 1000 yard shots last time out because of all the rain. The grass was way high and you just couldn't see them past about 800 yards. Both rifles were built this year.

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    Jerry,

    I meant on paper to check groups, but I guess you aren't into that.

    Not saying a factory rifle isn't capable, but not likely either.

    Thanks. Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by ba_50
    Jerry,

    I meant on paper to check groups, but I guess you aren't into that.

    Not saying a factory rifle isn't capable, but not likely either.

    Thanks. Bob
    I'd be into it if we had any 1000 yad ranges around. Our longest local range is 600 yard and we do use a pipeling right of way to verify our drop tables. The best I've ever done on the pipeline was 6 1/2 inches but that doesn't happen every time. 8-9 inches is more normal.


 
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