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I couldn't find any R5 .308 pictures or projects in here ... Really? Did I miss it somewhere? After waiting two years, I bought a 700 R5 SS .308 for my fun & expensive adult boy toy to go out and shoot the crap out of it, non competition bench and prone up to 1000m Paper Puncher only project. Ain't hunting with it. Will only feed it 175 grain loads.
Going with the Badger Ordinance 20 M.O.A. short action, RH, one piece base, 30mm medium rings for a Leupold Mark 4 LRT/T Target 4.5-14x40mm 30mm tube Mil dot with Loopy sun shades. Will this scope do the job for a novice shooter progressing my way up to 1000m? I want to buy once and cry once when I get the parts. Already have Harris S-BR 6-9 Bipod. Need any higher, I'll prop up on a sand bag. This would be for starters.

I also get all warm and fuzzy looking at the CDI DBM kit for AICS 5 and 10 round magazines. Not sure if that would be compadible with the H-S Precision Pro Series stock. I'm 6 foot 4 and the LOP and cheek adjustments would be nice. I have LOP and Cheek adjustments on my Ruger 10/22 SS Bull barrel. Can do without the custom magazine and maybe someday I'll get the black H-S stock and Duracoat in combat black for that personal touch. For now just the basics.

Badger Ordinance is my choice for base and rings. Just asking about the scope. I know that's opening a huge can of worms but I hate to second guess to Sunday on what I get. So for better or worse, will this scope suit my needs?
Would the Badger quick release on the base mess up your zero taking the scope off and on?
 

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The 4.5-14 is a little light for 1000 yard shooting. I'd go with at least a 6.5-20. I was shooting both powers yesterday at 600 yards and could really see the difference in my old eyes.

On a side note, I had mounted a 15 MOA base on my new 700 and couldn't get it to zero at 200 yards. I had to go back to a standard base and it worked fine out to 1000. Remington's are really getting sloppy in the way the actions are cut. I have one that won't adjust past 300 without a 15 MOA base and one that won't go down to 200 with a 15 MOA base. Swapping bases around shows that it's the receiver and not the bases.
 

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I have had the priviledge to handle a Mark 4 4.5-14x50 with the TMR reticle. If you have not seen a TMR, I would take a strong look at it. I was looking at the mil dot but have decided on the TMR. I know some people are used to the mil dot and its hard to make the change to hash marks(lines) instead of dots. The TMR has a line at 1.00 mil increments and a shorter line at .5 mil.
Sounds like you are going to have a nice setup. Post pics.
 

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Good choice on rifle. I'd have a look at Nightforce for scopes aswell. Better quality then Leupold and better bang for the buck so to speak. Im going with a 3.5-15x50 MLR for my 700 .308 build.

Nightforce, Leupoild and BO are all good ring and base mfgs. You are gtg with them. But i wouldnt get a quick release system, to much error and ease to stuff up your zero.

Bipod is fine. I have one and its great. But when you start shooting from a pack, you wont wanna use the bipod much. It aint as comfy IMO and also, it can have a effect on you POI when you shoot from different surfaces (grass, concrete, sand, gravel, etc).
 

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I have the 4-14.5x50 Mark 4 and i's been a great scope. However, I haven't shot it beyond 100 yards. I think Jerrschmitt is right and maybe something with a little more zoom would be better.

I have a 6-24 Bushnell 4200 on my AR and I find myself cranking that zoom up!
 

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The CDI kit will work with HS stocks but it has to be inletted. If you send it to Jeff he will install it for you and ship it back. Cost me $60 and took a week to get it back. First rate work and service.
 

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Thanks for the info on the Scope power issues. Been busy with everything and its taken a while to get back to the forum. I'm going to need a bunch more money and time for this project. Dang hard to do with out a JOB! Not feeling the green shoots and I'll bite my lips and not go into one of those I can't stand anything about P.O.T.U.S the "Teleprompter" diatribes, and focus on when I do get back to work, what I'll be doing.

Not doing the quick release scope mounts since I've never hear a positive thing about them. I'll stick with the one piece 20 M.O.A. I do have a range for 500+ meters and word has it they plan to go out to 1000m I ain't getting any younger either so seeing with better magnification will be a good idea. I'll do some shopping around since money is an issue for me now.

No pics yet, other than the box it came in. I really need more feedback from M24 shooters on the scope power on the military packages. That will get me going in the right direction. Thanks for all the other comments too.
 

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Military scopes for the 30cal range of sniper rifles are usually fixed 10x or 3-12, 3.5-15x, about that. No more. 338LM and 50BMG are usually the 5-25x power ranges is the norm.
 

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No pics yet, other than the box it came in. I really need more feedback from M24 shooters on the scope power on the military packages. That will get me going in the right direction. Thanks for all the other comments too.
What were you wanting to know? Quick got the general info.
As a rule of thumb you want 1x for every 100Y/M, minimum. Obviously the higher power you go, the smaller your FOV gets. Tremor will show up more, and at some point mirage will have an impact even with the best glass. FFP scopes will let you range at any magnification, but tend to cost more. Fixed powers are cheaper, probably more durable, but have very limited FOV in close.
30mm tubes will give you a little more adjustment usually in mechanical terms, and will also allow a "bigger pipe" for light to be transmitted from the objective to the occular.
 

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Been snooping around the gun shops checking prices and powers. Again, thanks for the info on scopes. I need to sit down and make up my mind and put a scope on the list of this project. As soon as I get a longer contract or a regular job around home, I'll be ordering everything and get started already.


On to my list.
 

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Good news! I have a contract and will be getting back to work on this project starting the new year. I have new questions for the forum. I have been looking at the GG&G scope mount and 30mm rings. Does anyone here use them and give your review. I do know it is a flat mount, no MOA, it is slotted for better clearance for ejecting and both mount and rings are steel. As for the glass, I'm looking to get the Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 6.5-20 X 50mm since I'm getting older and need to see the paper better for bench shooting. The range has a new 1000 to 1500 meter targets next to the 100, 200, up to the 1000 meters. Love that place. See lots of law enforcement there and was at an event demonstrating Key hole sniping. The guy shot a taget the size of a quarter at 350 meters through a hole in a board 3 meters in front of the bench with a hole the size of a bottle cap. Never seen anything like that. I just want to shoot paper for best groups. So it'll be a while before I get started yet, but, its coming soon.
 

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I also own A 700 5-R Milspec and my scope is a Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14x40 Mildot, for me it works great and personally I dont believe you need to mount the hubble space telescope on a gun to shoot 1000 yds or m. Btw, you might have to use a dremel fr the trigger guard on the HS precision stock. Best of luck!
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I couldn't find any R5 .308 pictures or projects in here ... Really? Did I miss it somewhere? After waiting two years, I bought a 700 R5 SS .308 for my fun & expensive adult boy toy to go out and shoot the crap out of it, non competition bench and prone up to 1000m Paper Puncher only project. Ain't hunting with it. Will only feed it 175 grain loads.
Going with the Badger Ordinance 20 M.O.A. short action, RH, one piece base, 30mm medium rings for a Leupold Mark 4 LRT/T Target 4.5-14x40mm 30mm tube Mil dot with Loopy sun shades. Will this scope do the job for a novice shooter progressing my way up to 1000m? I want to buy once and cry once when I get the parts. Already have Harris S-BR 6-9 Bipod. Need any higher, I'll prop up on a sand bag. This would be for starters.

I also get all warm and fuzzy looking at the CDI DBM kit for AICS 5 and 10 round magazines. Not sure if that would be compadible with the H-S Precision Pro Series stock. I'm 6 foot 4 and the LOP and cheek adjustments would be nice. I have LOP and Cheek adjustments on my Ruger 10/22 SS Bull barrel. Can do without the custom magazine and maybe someday I'll get the black H-S stock and Duracoat in combat black for that personal touch. For now just the basics.

Badger Ordinance is my choice for base and rings. Just asking about the scope. I know that's opening a huge can of worms but I hate to second guess to Sunday on what I get. So for better or worse, will this scope suit my needs?
Would the Badger quick release on the base mess up your zero taking the scope off and on?
 

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Update:

I will get one more box in tomorrow and I'll put it all together ... pictures coming soon!
 

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The best way is to open a Photobucket.com account. Its pretty simple on how to use it and they even have directions if im not mistaking. Then when you come on the forum here you type the message you want and then click on the sixth icon above the text box, which will give you the the image brackets
then you past the link that photobucket give you for the image in side the image brackets that come up.

Hope I made sense :D
 

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Remington 700 R-5 SS 308
Leupold Mark 4 20 MOA scope single base with Medium 30mm rings <----- Very solid I might add!
Harris S-BRM Leg Notch Sling Swivel 6"-9" with Alpha-Bravo Bipod Lock, long angle Zinc handle
Eagle Shooters Rifle Stock Pack with five teeth of 175 grain Federal Premium Gold Medal Ammunition, to go with the case of 200
Limbsaver recoil stock buffer (I'm old and recoil hurts!)
Explore Big Bore 6-24 X50 30mm Tube Tactical Target Turret 1/8" click Illuminated Mil-Dot, 4" sun shades and flip covers
Outlaw double shoulder sling quick release and chest strap from (WWW.timberbutteoutdoors.com ) Not pictured since they aren't here yet.

The glass was the hardest thing to figure out, I selected this one since I plan to bench shoot paper as much as I can and hunt hogs with friends around East Texas. And I just could not justify spending $1700 on a Leupold scope for something that will sit in the safe most of the time. I've been looking at these scopes for months now at the area gun shows, talked with the owner of the company and a few owners of the scopes and asked them how they were working out for them and I heard nothing bad about them. I looked at other forums on a thread that someone didn't like them but never used one and another thread where the guy loved them. Asking someone what scope to use is like opening that question of, "What hand gun should I buy?" So many variables and personal preference and advise from "experts"

So, if it sucks, I'm out $400 and will put it on something else and save up for a Leupold.
 
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