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NBT

Discussion Starter · Jan 24, 2010

Hello 700' rs,
Happened into this forum while looking at accessories for my soon to be delivered 700 SPS, in .308. Should be here next week sometime...picked it up for $530, and Remington has a $40 dollar rebate right now...so I figured now was not a bad time to get into a good "long range" rifle.
Honestly I ordered it new from Wally World...could not beat the price...I am having some second thoughts about what model is coming, as I thought I had the #'s for the SPS Tactical...but as I see there is a SPS model as well. I do know I ordered the heavy barrel...so we will see what shows up. I am not too worried about it, as it's getting built from the base model anyhow...different stock, bi-pod, optics...possible trigger job( it does not have the xmark) or a timney aftermarket. Will get a few dozen rounds down range first. I have 300 rds in route right now. This gun will fill both hunting and target shooting...so any advice during "the process" will be appreciated.
I know that

Hope this will satisfy until I get the Remington in next week... just a few from camp...mind you these were all taken during Bow season...and to tell you the truth I have never taken a deer with a gun in all my years of hunting...however recently...and after rebuilding my right shoulder...I might have to adjust methods of filling the freezer.

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El Chorizo

· #2 · Jan 25, 2010

Welcome to the forums!

I'm sure you will like the SPS just fine. If you got the Heavy barrel one, it will be quite similar to the SPS Tactical except with a little longer barrel. I like the xmark trigger on mine - it's very crisp and clean, but I would say it is a bit heavy.

NBT

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jan 25, 2010

SemperFi said:
Welcome to the forums!

I'm sure you will like the SPS just fine. If you got the Heavy barrel one, it will be quite similar to the SPS Tactical except with a little longer barrel. I like the xmark trigger on mine - it's very crisp and clean, but I would say it is a bit heavy.

I do know I ordered the heavy barrel...anyone have any experience with timney triggers?

Quick

· #4 · Jan 25, 2010

G'day mate and welcome to 700rifle.com

Hav efun with the new rifle, once you start to modify, you wont stop trust me.

NBT

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jan 25, 2010

Quick said:
G'day mate and welcome to 700rifle.com

Have fun with the new rifle, once you start to modify, you wont stop trust me.

Thanks bro...here is what I am thinking of off the top of my head...this is after I get the gun cleaned, broke in...and a few hundred down range. I have 2 scopes here at the house...cheaper ones (one Bushy, one Redfield) that came with some of my prior guns...that will suffice in the interim... then I will be deciding on some optics for this gun. I do not have thousands of dollars to spend on a scope...so finding a happy medium will do. Been looking at the Bushnell 4200 Elite....time will tell.

Bell & Carlson Tactical Medalist A5 Stock
http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-108/mcmillan-a5-stock-tactical/Detail
Harris Bipod
http://www.harrisbipods.com/HBL.html

Ken Farrell
http://www.kenfarrell.com/0010IN-H-AL.html
http://www.kenfarrell.com/REM-7S-HL-1-0.html

Timney
http://www.timneytriggers.com/sunshop/index.php?action=category&id=6

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jerrschmitt

· #6 · Jan 25, 2010

Back in the day I used Timney triggers on a lot of varmint rifles. They weren't the best but they were plenty good enough. When I switched to Remingtons I didn't bother because Remington made a darn good trigger. Most of my rifles still have Remington (Old style) triggers and they work just fine. I have two with Jewell triggers and they are great for bench shooting but I wouldn't want them on anything else because they are 2 oz triggers. I have heard a lot of good things about the new Timney triggers but haven't used one.

NBT

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jan 25, 2010

jerrschmitt said:
Back in the day I used Timney triggers on a lot of varmint rifles. They weren't the best but they were plenty good enough. When I switched to Remingtons I didn't bother because Remington made a darn good trigger. Most of my rifles still have Remington (Old style) triggers and they work just fine. I have two with Jewell triggers and they are great for bench shooting but I wouldn't want them on anything else because they are 2 oz triggers. I have heard a lot of good things about the new Timney triggers but haven't used one.

Well I am not beyond having this trigger "adjusted"...I know it's not the x-mark...and I have heard good and bad about them. I do have an excellent gunsmith real close to me...he is well known in the area...and I would have no problem having him get this set to about #3...which is where I would prefer it. I am not going to be competing with this gun...but will be hunting in the Mountains of WV with it...so reliable 400 yd + shots are not going to be unheard of. I highly doubt I will be poking 800 yard targets with gun...ever... so getting crazy with making it a bench warmer...would just be a waste of $$ that I could put towards good ammo.
I do like making it my own gun... and know that the stocks are rather "weak"...have judge triggers from the factory...ect...so addressing these issues up front will get me set up, and a much more reliable build. You can bet I will be sending plenty of ammo down range before I make any premature opinions. I do rely on the opinions expressed herein...and look forward to many conversations about the capabilities of the 700. Believe me...I almost pulled the trigger on the Savage 10 FP...a friend of mine and I were rounding out the center hole on a target @ 50 yds with his...and we were alternating shots. I was pretty impressed....the aftermarket part availability for Savage vs Remington is quite a noticeable difference...and the prices for said aftermarket parts are reflective of that.
Thanks for the welcome fellas, and when I get that 308 in my hands...pics will follow. Ammo should be here damn near the same time.

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quaid

· #8 · Jan 25, 2010

Speaking of scopes, NBT, I have been curious about the Posi-Lock feature of Burris scopes. Apparently, from a review I read, the idea is to eliminate reticle "float". I have no experience of the Burris but if I was in the market, I would at least check that out.

jerrschmitt

· #9 · Jan 26, 2010

My local Smith charges $50 to set up a Remington trigger. He'll set it at whatever weight you want and it will be as crisp and clean as you will ever find. I do my own and getting a 2-3 pound trigger is easy.

El Chorizo

· #10 · Jan 26, 2010

I've got one Timney trigger on my Colt AR-15 and it was a very good improvement over the stock trigger. However, I just recnely purchased an RRA lower with their National Match trigger. I think the RRA is "slightly" better than the Timney. But yes, the Timney's are very good triggers for the money.

I also like my 4200 I have so if you are looking at that, it's a good choice. I purchased mine from Bruno Shooter supply (I had to call them as they didn't have it on their website) and they had the best price by far!

Also, for barrel break in you may want to consider these: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=847811

They are a bore lapping round (you can get the just the bullets if you like to load your own). These will "fire lap" your barrel and make it very smooth. They don't remove hardly any material, they simply smooth what is there. My rifle fouls hardly at all and cleans very easily.

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Doug308

· #11 · Jan 26, 2010

Mmmmm! Deer meat guuuud!

NBT

Discussion Starter · #12 · Jan 27, 2010

quaid said:
Speaking of scopes, NBT, I have been curious about the Posi-Lock feature of Burris scopes. Apparently, from a review I read, the idea is to eliminate reticle "float". I have no experience of the Burris but if I was in the market, I would at least check that out.

Good to know, one of my big concerns is the canter of the scope base...if I am only planning to shoot out to 500 - 600 max...will I even need a 20 MOA? I am pretty sure my average range will be @ 400...but don't want to run out of adjustment if I need it beyond....some of the fellas are talking Elk in CO in a few years....and I would love to go smack a few Pronghorn...now thats some good eating.

SemperFi said:
I've got one Timney trigger on my Colt AR-15 and it was a very good improvement over the stock trigger. However, I just recnely purchased an RRA lower with their National Match trigger. I think the RRA is "slightly" better than the Timney. But yes, the Timney's are very good triggers for the money.
I also like my 4200 I have so if you are looking at that, it's a good choice. I purchased mine from Bruno Shooter supply (I had to call them as they didn't have it on their website) and they had the best price by far!
Also, for barrel break in you may want to consider these: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=847811
They are a bore lapping round (you can get the just the bullets if you like to load your own). These will "fire lap" your barrel and make it very smooth. They don't remove hardly any material, they simply smooth what is there. My rifle fouls hardly at all and cleans very easily.

Cool round...never knew they made such a thing...learn something new every day. I have 2 RRA Match triggers...one in the lower I just built on my AR...the other in my RRA AR....real happy with them.

I got some in the freezer Doug...and my last quarter stick of summer sausage in the fridge right now...I cant stop eating it.... never lasts.

I love this vid.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX4aqmbaGIo

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NBT

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jan 27, 2010

She's home! Looks like I got the X Mark too... 24" barrel. They even had ammo there...picked up 2 boxes for 17.80/ box...Winchester 150 Gr.
I did reference the #'s and find that I have this one..."kind of" not happy that it does not have the HBAR.... but it is not going to make that big of a deal IMHO... real happy to find an accutrigger in it. My total "out the door" for this one...$490.00 (after Remington mail in $40 rebate)
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps.aspx

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BadKarma

· #14 · Jan 27, 2010

That's the same rifle that I hunt with and I've been real happy with it and it's accuracy.
If you reload you can really dial it in and shoot some super tight groups.
I think you'll be pleased with it.
Enjoy.

jerrschmitt

· #15 · Jan 28, 2010

NBT said:
I love this vid.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX4aqmbaGIo

Now that's some good shooting.

jerrschmitt

· #16 · Jan 28, 2010

NBT said:
Good to know, one of my big concerns is the canter of the scope base...if I am only planning to shoot out to 500 - 600 max...will I even need a 20 MOA? I am pretty sure my average range will be @ 400...but don't want to run out of adjustment if I need it beyond....some of the fellas are talking Elk in CO in a few years....and I would love to go smack a few Pronghorn...now thats some good eating.

You probably wouldn't need any elevation in your mount. I've shot out to 1000 yards without using any but the base costs the same either way so now I buy all my bases with 20 MOA built in. It doesn't affect closer range shots, so why not have it? 500 to 600 is about where you'll start to notice that you need it.

NBT

Discussion Starter · #17 · Jan 28, 2010

BadKarma said:
That's the same rifle that I hunt with and I've been real happy with it and it's accuracy.
If you reload you can really dial it in and shoot some super tight groups.
I think you'll be pleased with it.
Enjoy.

Good to know..thanks. I have been looking at re-loaders... Dillon XL650 looks good... been few years since we loaded our own shotgun shells on the MEC... also looking at the RCBS and the Hornandy. Been doing a lot of reading here: http://ultimatereloader.com/

jerrschmitt said:
NBT said:

Good to know, one of my big concerns is the canter of the scope base...if I am only planning to shoot out to 500 - 600 max...will I even need a 20 MOA? I am pretty sure my average range will be @ 400...but don't want to run out of adjustment if I need it beyond....some of the fellas are talking Elk in CO in a few years....and I would love to go smack a few Pronghorn...now that's some good eating.

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You probably wouldn't need any elevation in your mount. I've shot out to 1000 yards without using any but the base costs the same either way so now I buy all my bases with 20 MOA built in. It doesn't affect closer range shots, so why not have it? 500 to 600 is about where you'll start to notice that you need it.

THANK YOU!... for confirming that... I was coming up with the "same math" myself...and defaulted to... it's better to have it and not need it...versus...not having it...and needing it.

remington70023

· #18 · Jan 28, 2010

Nice rifle NBT, I just got the SPS in .300 win mag. Let us know how it does at the range after you get it all set up.

El Chorizo

· #19 · Feb 7, 2010

jerrschmitt said:
You probably wouldn't need any elevation in your mount. I've shot out to 1000 yards without using any but the base costs the same either way so now I buy all my bases with 20 MOA built in. It doesn't affect closer range shots, so why not have it? 500 to 600 is about where you'll start to notice that you need it.

I've actually been thinking about swapping out the 20 MOA base that I have and just get a flat one also. I have no need for the 20 MOA base.

Quick

· #20 · Feb 7, 2010

If you ever want to shoot further, you will need it. I needed mine shoot at 901m.

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