Help help finding parts

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Kennedyford

Discussion Starter · Aug 9, 2009

This is in the Law enforcement forum because....well im working on becoming a local LE. No I wont be a sniper but here is what I need help with.

Im going to start the assembly from scratch my own .308 version of a 5r. Not stainless because Im going to paint it anyway.

Need to know where I can find the actual short action....22-250 7mm what ever so I can mount it into my stock. Even used will work. Ive already located the barrel and I am still looking for the stock yet.

Thanks for any help in advance. Please PM me. Im in Arizona. Troy

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El Chorizo

· #2 · Aug 9, 2009

Welcome to the forums! Hope all works out well for you in your LE career!

You might try having a look on GunBroker and search for 700 actions. Are you just looking for any short action so you can put that in the stock? I'm a little confused if you are building a .308 and are looking for just any short action!

They seem to be hard to find just barreled actions on Google or something too... not sure why that is.

Let us know what you find.

Kennedyford

Discussion Starter · #3 · Aug 9, 2009

Ahh, you will learn something new everyday.

Any short action will do to create a .308 from scratch. There is a list, I dont have handy, but you can change the barrel and create the .308 of your dreams. For instance I remember that as long as I get a .223 Rem., .22-250 Rem., .243 Win., .25-06 Rem., .270 Win., 7mm-08 Rem., .280 Rem., 7mm Rem. Mag., I can install my new barrel in .308 and bed into a stock (that I have not purchased) I can do so at a reduced cost then store bought 5r and so forth. I dont remember exactly but If I went with a long action I would just have to change the bolt to a short caliber but why spend money twice right?

I have checked gun broker but I would prefer local or close without paying over and above retail pricing for an auction.

Thanks Troy

Quick

· #4 · Aug 10, 2009

Remember also with the 700SA, you will need the .308 bolt head aswell. Just in case you didn't know that. Sounds good mate.

for a 700 action, buy any of the R700SA youth model and then flog the barrel and stock and you will have the action, and then build from there. You can use a 700LA, the M24 is a Long action .308. Nothing wrong with them.

Kennedyford

Discussion Starter · #5 · Aug 10, 2009

Quick said:
Remember also with the 700SA, you will need the .308 bolt head aswell. Just in case you didn't know that. Sounds good mate.
for a 700 action, buy any of the R700SA youth model and then flog the barrel and stock and you will have the action, and then build from there. You can use a 700LA, the M24 is a Long action .308. Nothing wrong with them.
Shaun aka 'Quick'
Two Rocks, Perth, Western Australia
Service Rifle | Service Pistol | F-Class Standard.
SMLE No 1 MK III .303 British | Beretta 92FS 9mm (soon) | R700 SPS Tactical .308 Win

According to the information I got the only bolt head I have to change would be if I went up to 30-06 and up. Now Ill have to do more research but I def knew there would be a bolt head upgrade if using anything other then what I posted. I will call tomorrow and post what rockcreek barrel says.

Why buy a youth model? My cost would be higher and extra parts I dont need or have to pay for a barrel removal. Unless you know something that I dont? Anyway there is not a definite NO to using long action...just no one has explained what the difference is in long or short specifically besides the bolt. Please educate me or point me in the right direction. Thx

El Chorizo

· #6 · Aug 10, 2009

Here's some quick info about SA vs. LA.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_5_47/ai_72407692/

If you need more "techy" type info, Google seemed to have a lot of links. The one above is just a quick one I found.

What is the "bolt head" you are referring to? It seems like that would have to be milled to caliber specifications. This sounds like an interesting project though! Keep us up to date with it.

jerrschmitt

· #7 · Aug 10, 2009

There is a 5R for sale at http://www.snipercentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25854. I doubt that you could build one for that.

Bruno has some blueprinted .308 actions for $650.
http://www.brunoshooters.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=BSS&Category_Code=1R

I saw a few actions a while back for $450 but by the time you had them cleaned up Bruno would be cheaper.

You said you didn't want a Stainless barrel. Stainless will last longer since it's harder.

Hope this helps.

jerrschmitt

· #8 · Aug 10, 2009

Just saw this over on the 6BR site. That's about as cheap as it will get.
http://6mmbr.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3611337

That .473 bolt face is good for .308, 30-06, .270 and such. Even though it's a long action, it would make a good .308 just like the M24.

Kennedyford

Discussion Starter · #9 · Aug 14, 2009

WHOO HOOOOOOO!!!!!!

I just purchased TODAY a 700 5R SS milspec......I just could resist and I spoke directly with Scott Powers himself. Who do you say? Here is a sample of his work.... http://www.snipercountry.com/InReviews/Rem_M700_StainlessSpecial5RMilspec.asp

Anyway ordered mine and its on its way.....Just couldnt build one for that cost.

jerrschmitt

· #10 · Aug 15, 2009

Great. How long before you get it? Is it a brand new one?

Kennedyford

Discussion Starter · #11 · Aug 15, 2009

Brand spanking NEW. I personally have to wait for some liquid funds to arrive and then send off to him. So the time it take from Pennsylvania when he gets my moolah. Say 2 weeks or so. Cant wait

Kennedyford

Discussion Starter · #12 · Aug 15, 2009

jerrschmitt said:
There is a 5R for sale at http://www.snipercentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25854. I doubt that you could build one for that.

Bruno has some blueprinted .308 actions for $650.
http://www.brunoshooters.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=BSS&Category_Code=1R

I saw a few actions a while back for $450 but by the time you had them cleaned up Bruno would be cheaper.

You said you didn't want a Stainless barrel. Stainless will last longer since it's harder.

Hope this helps.

Bruno is right across the street from my work. Im even having my rifle sent there.

jerrschmitt

· #13 · Aug 15, 2009

Kennedyford said:
Bruno is right across the street from my work. Im even having my rifle sent there.

One of my best shooting partners was from Phoenix and had a couple of rifles built by Bruno. He does great work.

Did you ever run across a guy name Red Martin? He worked for Sportsman's Warehouse until he passed away afew years ago. This is a photo of him with his Bruno 6.5-.284 on our last Pdog shoot in 2006.

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Kennedyford

Discussion Starter · #14 · Aug 15, 2009

Sorry never met the years young individual. Ive been in the Sportsman warehouse 4 times in the past 2 years but I know faces and I did not meet him. Sorry for your loss.

On a side note. I know about the prairiedog towns and the annual shoot. Can you give me some specifics? I thought it was held in the midwest of S Dak or Nebraska?

jerrschmitt

· #15 · Aug 15, 2009

Kennedyford said:
Sorry never met the years young individual. Ive been in the Sportsman warehouse 4 times in the past 2 years but I know faces and I did not meet him. Sorry for your loss.

On a side note. I know about the prairiedog towns and the annual shoot. Can you give me some specifics? I thought it was held in the midwest of S Dak or Nebraska?

Red did a lot of Pdog shooting up near old Highway 66 some place. Never shot with him down there. Pickets Corral was the name of it but that's about I know.

He and I shot in North Dakota and shot ground squirrels in CA, NV and N. Mexico.

I wrote about my Secret hunting spot here.
http://www.700rifle.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=172

El Chorizo

· #16 · Aug 18, 2009

I received an e-mail asking a question along the lines of the original post that started this discussion.

Here it is:

I am going to put together a rifle using the 700 action in .243 cal. What calibers and actions are compatible with that cartridge? I would like to know so that I can purchase a rifle for its action and so that I am not constrained to looking for just a rem 700 in .243.

Thanks,

Derek

Could someone provide him some more detailed information about this?

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jerrschmitt

· #17 · Aug 18, 2009

The main three that you will probably find are the .22-250, .243 and the .308. Any 700 will work but the small bolt face like .223 would need to have the bolt face opened up. I used a .243 to make a 7.62X39. The bolt face is too large for that cartridge but it works fine anyway. In going the other way, the Remington 40X are all short actions but use calibers up to .30-06.

Highplainsdrifter

· #18 · Apr 1, 2010

In case anyone wants to know, the best prairie dogging in Arizona is on the southwest side of the town of Seligman (on old Route 66 between Flagstaff and Kingman). There are endless towns of Gunnison's Prairiedogs there and very few people for miles around.

dratt1957

· #19 · Apr 1, 2010

Kennedyford said:
Ahh, you will learn something new everyday.

Any short action will do to create a .308 from scratch. There is a list, I dont have handy, but you can change the barrel and create the .308 of your dreams. For instance I remember that as long as I get a .223 Rem., .22-250 Rem., .243 Win., .25-06 Rem., .270 Win., 7mm-08 Rem., .280 Rem., 7mm Rem. Mag., I can install my new barrel in .308 and bed into a stock (that I have not purchased) I can do so at a reduced cost then store bought 5r and so forth. I dont remember exactly but If I went with a long action I would just have to change the bolt to a short caliber but why spend money twice right?

I have checked gun broker but I would prefer local or close without paying over and above retail pricing for an auction.

Thanks Troy

Hi there, you really need to stay with a 22-250 243,260,7mm-08 or 308 action.The 223 bolt face is too small
the 25-06,270, 30-06 is long action,but the bolt face diameter is correct,yes you can use these
but will have to get a stock for a long action. (the m24 sniper rifle is based off the long action.)
the magnum cartriges 7mm etc. bolt face is to large in diameter.hope this helps...Dale (Bubba to
my freinds) I understand we have another Bubba on this forum,so you can call me what you want
just don't call me late for supper.:lol:

dratt1957

· #20 · Apr 1, 2010

Highplainsdrifter said:
In case anyone wants to know, the best prairie dogging in Arizona is on the southwest side of the town of Seligman (on old Route 66 between Flagstaff and Kingman). There are endless towns of Gunnison's Prairiedogs there and very few people for miles around.

Hey, there Highplainsdrifter I am a native Desert rat, lived in Prescott for years ,I used to hunt
those very Dogs,way back in the 1980's,glad to hear they are all still there for your hunting
enjoyment,glad I did'nt kill them all:lol:,I still have a family place between Showlow and Concho
haven't been there in about 5 years. Last time I was in Snowflake there wasn't much going on
due to the elusive spotted owl contraversy,all the mills and such were closed down.hope things
have changed for the better.

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