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I want a good shooting deer rifle. Here's what I'm thinking, but I'm relatively new to any customizing of rifles so I'm looking for thoughts and opinions, and constructive criticism is very welcome.

I'm thinking start with a heavy barrel Remington 700 (sps???)
30-06 caliber
bell&carlson medalist a2 stock
shorten the barrel to 22"
rifle basic or timney trigger
haven't really thought about optics, but probably something along the lines of a 30mm ziess 4-12x40

learn me something. What am I totally wrong about, what am I on the right track with?

This will be primairly a hunting rifle, but I'd like to be able to get some good groups with it. I bought a .308 for shooting paper, but sub moa would still be nice.
I know there are better stocks availabel, but I will be on some sort of budget.
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Why not use the .308 for deer?? Or is it too heavy?? How much do you want the all up weight to be??

If you want a Sub-MOA hunting rifle, do this:

Rem 700 Youth 30-06
Flog barrel and stock
ER Shaw Heavy barrel 30 cal (can get for about 150 - 200, Talk to Larry (OEM) on Sniper Central)
B&C Light Tactical
Then base and rings to suit your rifle/scope combo.

Whats you budget??
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My .308 is for punching paper which translates to "this is a good excuse to get a new gun" :D
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Q
Fair enough. Good enough for me. Id do the same.
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jerrschmitt
About the only thing I would question would be your choice of triggers. I think a properly set up Remington trigger is superior to a Rifle Basic or Timney.
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dratt1957
Hotshot said:
I want a good shooting deer rifle. Here's what I'm thinking, but I'm relatively new to any customizing of rifles so I'm looking for thoughts and opinions, and constructive criticism is very welcome.

I'm thinking start with a heavy barrel Remington 700 (sps???)
30-06 caliber
bell&carlson medalist a2 stock
shorten the barrel to 22"
rifle basic or timney trigger
haven't really thought about optics, but probably something along the lines of a 30mm ziess 4-12x40

learn me something. What am I totally wrong about, what am I on the right track with?

This will be primairly a hunting rifle, but I'd like to be able to get some good groups with it. I bought a .308 for shooting paper, but sub moa would still be nice.
I know there are better stocks availabel, but I will be on some sort of budget.
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1ST OF ALL THE SPS HEAVY BARELL IS NOT AVAILABLE IN 30-06.IT IS A SHORT ACTION ONLY
RIFLE,BUT I AGREE WHY NOT THE 308,IT IS BALISTCALLY VERY CLOSE TO THE 06,THE ONLY
MAJOR DIFFERENCE IS WHEN YOU SHOOT THE HEAVIER BULLETS,WHICH THE 06 DOES BETTER.
THE 308,IS USUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCURATE AND WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED TO DUPLICATE THE 30-06 IN SHORTER MORE COMPACT CASE FOR THE MILITARY.
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No doubt the ziess you describe is a crackerjack scope. Does this mean you will be hunting at 300 plus yards over open country? Will you have to carry it far? If so, weight could be an issue. My rifle is light and short. The scope is one and a half to five. A short range rifle for pigs where hunting ranges rarely exceed 100 yards.
ps if you really want to reach right out there, you might want to consider a rangefinder. With that and armed with a 308 you would be dangerous to 900 yards. Don't know about the retained energy and killing power though........never tried it, except at paper!
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dratt1957 said:
1ST OF ALL THE SPS HEAVY BARELL IS NOT AVAILABLE IN 30-06.IT IS A SHORT ACTION ONLY
RIFLE,BUT I AGREE WHY NOT THE 308,IT IS BALISTCALLY VERY CLOSE TO THE 06,THE ONLY
MAJOR DIFFERENCE IS WHEN YOU SHOOT THE HEAVIER BULLETS,WHICH THE 06 DOES BETTER.
THE 308,IS USUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCURATE AND WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED TO DUPLICATE THE 30-06 IN SHORTER MORE COMPACT CASE FOR THE MILITARY.

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"You do not know you need it untill they come to take it away".........THOMAS JEFFERSON
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"Life's tough....It's even tougher if you're Stupid"........JOHN WAYNE
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besides the sendero, what are my options for a heavy barrel in a 06? Is my only option a new barrel?
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THE BARELL ALONE WON'T DO IT,THE SHORT ACTION IS ACTUALLY APROX. 1/2" TOO SHORT FOR THE 06 ROUND.YOU WOULD HAVE TO START WITH A LONG ACTION AND GET A LONG ACTION STOCK,YOU WOULD OF COURSE HAVE TO HAVE A BARELL MADE AS WELL. HOWEVER...........
UNLESS YOU ARE DEAD-SET ON A HEAVY BARELL 30-06,YOU COULD GO WITH A 7MM-08 WHICH
WOULD REQUIRE ONLY A BARELL CHANGE. THE 7MM-08 IS A GREAT ROUND AS WELL?
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ATM I was kinda set on the 30-06. That's why I was looking for a heavy barrel 06. I like the 7mm-08 alot also, but was kinda hoping to stay with the 30-06. It's ok if you crush my dreams. I'm not completely opposed to another .308! Lol

I am aware the 06 is a LA as opposed to the .308, but isn't the 7mm-08 also a SA? I'm looking for a LA with a heavy barrel for a platform, so I hate to spend $1200 on a sendero then hack the barrel, swap the stock and the trigger, and end up with $1800-$2000 in a rifle alone if I can get an sps and be closer to $950-$1100 for the rifle.

If Remington doesn't offer another heavy/target barrel in a LA I'll probably be back to the drawing board
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dratt1957
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ATM I was kinda set on the 30-06. That's why I was looking for a heavy barrel 06. I like the 7mm-08 alot also, but was kinda hoping to stay with the 30-06. It's ok if you crush my dreams. I'm not completely opposed to another .308! Lol

I am aware the 06 is a LA as opposed to the .308, but isn't the 7mm-08 also a SA? I'm looking for a LA with a heavy barrel for a platform, so I hate to spend $1200 on a sendero then hack the barrel, swap the stock and the trigger, and end up with $1800-$2000 in a rifle alone if I can get an sps and be closer to $950-$1100 for the rifle.

If Remington doesn't offer another heavy/target barrel in a LA I'll probably be back to the drawing board
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SORRY,I DIDN,T MEEN TO CRUSH YOUR DREAMS,IT CAN BE DONE,IT JUST TAKES $$$$$$
EVEN ACCORDING TO MY LATEST REM.CATALOG THE SENDERO IS AVAILABLE ONLY IN MAGNUM
CARTRIDGES ,WHICH BRINGS UP ITS OWN PROBLEMS.........HOW ABOUT? AN SPS HEAVY
BARELL IN 300 W.S.M. ? THERE WAS A SMALL RUN OF THOSE MADE AND YOU CAN STILL FIND
ONE OCASSIONALLY ON GUN BROKER.COM. IT IS OF COURSE ALSO SHORT ACTION,BUT IT MOST
DEFINETLY HAS MORE POOP THAN THE 308 OR 30-06.THERE IS ONE ON FLORIDA GUN TRADER
WEB SITE NOW . GO TO NORTH FLORIDA SITE AND THE SELLER IS BUBBAWSM HE'S ASKING
525.00 FOR IT.ITEM#29482 IT WOULD BE COOL AND UNUSUAL,NOT MANY OF THEM WERE MADE.
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Hey if you want to go big, get a 700 PSS in .300 Win Mag! That'll sure cure what ails ya. It is probably one of the few factory Rem rifles with the long action heavy barrel. Or how about an M24, then you get a long action heavy barrel but in .308. I know your set on a 30-06, just messin around a bit.
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The 300 is on my list!! I really want a 338 LM, but I think for praticality the 300 will be first!
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You could start with a user rifle as a donor. ADL's in 30-06 or 270 can be had fairly inexpensively. After a new barrel and stock you would probably not spend too much more than the cost of a new Sendaro.
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NBT
I kind of went in the other direction regarding a deer rig. I did not want to spend a bunch of money on barrel, trigger, ect... for a gun that was going to be rained on, grabbed with bloody hands, dropped in the dirt...frozen...ect.
I went with a standard Rem 700 in .308... with the mindset of putting on a "decent" scope, Harris bipod, sling, and having the receiver "squared and trued"....and that was about it.... with a budget of $1000.00. I did have the opportunity to upgrade stocks, so I put on the take off Hogue SPS Tac stock that I got from 308isgreat, once he upgraded to the HS Precision.

To date, I could not be happier with the rig...it's accurate... fit my budget... and I don't worry about anything that will happen to it when in the field. I would not want that if I had a custom rig built for "tack driving"... which is on the list of to do's.

Not sure where you hunt... so not sure what your average yardage shot will be... I expect mine will be from 100 to 300 yards.... with an average of 200 yds. Perfect for the .308... 30-06 is a versatile round, and has (in it's history) dropped many North American game without incident.

Good Luck, and have fun.
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