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I just recently bit the bullet on a SPS Tactical in .308. Mostly because I just took up reloading as a hobby and want something to hone my shooting skills with. I plan to eventually shoot some matches if I'm able to hold my own. Right now due to unrelated expenses I'm on a budget for optics. I was wanting something I can hunt with although I almost exclusively duck hunt now. And will be able to shoot paper out to 600 yards. I was hoping to stay at or below $300 but am a little flexable.
Doing a little research I'm lookinhlg into the bushnell elite 3200 in a 10x40, and possibly the falcon menace in 10x42. I've never heard much about falcon, but the little bit of research I've done they seem to be decent.
If I get to shoot as much as I'm hoping, I don't mind investing in some better glass such as schmit & bender, ziess, swavorski, night force leupold or the likes. But for now I just can't justify the expense.

Also I do have a leupold VXII 3-9x40 on my 10/22 I could have refurbished but would rather something more for target shooting.

I'm not real big on fixed power scopes anymore but am thinking with elthe 10x and a manual focus I may be ok. Any help/opinions are greatly appreciated. Thanks
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You may want to consider a Wotac. They've gotten a reputation as being a very good scope for the money. I plan on getting one myself as soon as they are in stock again (which should be next week). Their 4-14x50 model costs $329, which is slightly over your $300 budget but is still cheaper than the most comparable Falcon. There's a review of a Wotac just a couple topics below this one. Here's a link to their website:

http://www.sightwonders.com/wotac.html
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Falcoln menace. A whole reputable group of police tac snipers use em for personal use in my other forum.
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El Chorizo
I like the Elite scopes as well, I have one of the 4200's. However, the scopes that the others mentioned are good too! I guess it just depends on what you can obtain easily!
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+1 on the Falcon Menace. I have two of them one of which is the 10X42 on my 700 tactical. I certainly am not the optics guru by any means but I have been very pleased with both scopes. Wonder Optics is located about an hour from where I live and they are great people to deal with. I don't have any personal experience with the Wotac other than seeing them at Wonders table at the gunshows. They appear to be a quality piece of glass based upon that. I will say this, if Wonder is putting his name behind them I would certainly take that as reason enough to buy one. He stands behind what he sells and would treat you right if you were to have a problem.

Get ready to shoot some serious groups with your rifle. I was at the range yesterday working with another rifle and decided to put my last three Fed Gold Match 168s, not it's normal diet, thru my 700 tactical just for giggles. Three shots touching at 100 yards with the Falcon scope. I can't see any reason you won't have the same results once you get it up and running.
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Badkarma, Kennedyford
How is the light gathering capability of the Falcon Menace? I read a review (I think the one on SC) and they said it was a great scope for the price, but that the one possible problem may be shooting in low light conditions.
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I haven't had any problems shooting in near dark conditions. One has a 56mm and the other a 42mm
objective and they both are plenty bright in low light conditions. I have been real happy with both scopes
overall. Good performance for the money.
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PALADIN
Thanks. I'm looking at the 4X14X44. I keep reading good things about the entire Falcon line.
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dratt1957
Look into the KONUS M30 line of scopes,great price,great quality.They have Laser engraved
reticles and anti-cant bubble,30mm tubes hi-def glass and lifetime warranty........worth checking
out!
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I don't have any experience with the Konus line of scopes but from what I hear they are supposed to be a pretty good piece of glass.
Bought my first Wotach 4X14X50 from Wonder Optics and mounted it up on my long range AR. With all the snow and rain I can't get out to the range to try it out yet and that sucks. From sighting it out the back door it appears to be very clear and bright. The turrets have a real good feel to them and the mag ring is real smooth up and down. Paid $329 for it and so far it appears it's gonna be a bargin. Still gonna keep the Falcons on the bolt guns but this one may give them a good run.
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dratt1957
I HAVE THE KONUS M30 4.5X16X40 ON MY PSS 308, AND IT WORKS GREAT. EXTREMLY CLEAR
AND ALL THE KNOBS WORK WELL,ONLY THING I DONT CARE FOR IS 1/8 IN. CLICKS. IT IS
CLEARER THAN MY NIKON 6X18X40 BUCKMASTER AND IS MUCH CLEARER THAN MY 6X24
SWIFT. I PAID AROUND 300.00 FOR THE KONUS,MY BUDDIE THINKS IT'S AS CLEAR AS HIS
BUSHNELL 4200 AT ABOUT 1/2 THE PRICE.ALSO THE BLUE LIGHTED RETICLE WORKS WELL IN
FAIRLY BRIGHT LIGHT AS WELL AS DIM LIGHT!
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Hey Dratt1957 how do you like your PSS?
I've got the SPS Tactical but I'm thinking about a longer barrel for more velocity.
What's the twist rate on your rifle? What bullet weight are are shooting?
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dratt1957
IT SHOOTS WELL,HOWEVER IT IS BASICALLY A SPS VARMINT WITH H.S. PRECISION STOCK AND NOTHING MORE.. IT HAS A 1:12 TWIST,MINE IS A LITTLE OLDER (PRE X MARK TRIGGER MODEL) AND I LIKE THE OLDER TRIGGER BETTER (MY .223 HAS THE X MARK) I TRADED A FREIND OF MINE THE PSS STOCK FOR HIS HS VARMINT STOCK,I DID NOT LIKE THE PALM SWELL,THE HS VARMINT STOCK IS NOT AS WIDE AND DOES NOT HAVE THE PALM SWELL,IT FITS ME BETTER.MY BEST GROUP SO FAR IS JUST UNDER 1/2 IN WITH 42.0 GR. RELODER 15 AND 168 SIERRA MK'S.AT 100 YDS.THIS
WAS ALSO A GOOD LOAD FOR MY VTR AND CZ 550 VARMINTER WITH HS PRECISION STOCK (WHAT
A SHOOTER THAT WAS!) BUT L.O.P. WAS TOO SHORT ON THAT RIFLE! BUT THAT ANOTHER STORY!
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