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I bought a Remington 700 Long Range in 30-06 SPRG with 26" barrel.
I'm wondering what "Long Range" means or could mean in original condition or modified.
I shoot at the Sacramento Valley Shooting Center east of Sacramento.
I haven't been to the range with this new rifle. Unfired.
I have two ATN scopes. Bipod
Wondering what good range ammo to buy.
I have a 10 round detachable magazine kit.
I have a good photography tripod and would like to mount rifle on but am mystified by the necessary hardware needed from gun stock to tripod.
Well goodness, all the beginner questions with a new rifle.


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Hi Phil and welcome to the site. Congratulations on your new rifle. Are you going to hunt with the rifle or target shoot?

For some Long Range means 200 to 500 yards as compared to the 100 Yard Hunting Rifle. Your 26' Barrel with a large case round, will allow more powder to be burned before the projectile leaves the muzzle.

Long range for me is 600 / 800 and 1,000 yards, which would be for F-Class, Palma and Long Range Bench Rest.

There are suppliers of Match Grade Ammo out there. Check Lapua and AtlantaArms to see what you can get. They are pricey.

To really get the most out of your rifle, you need to reload. Other than that, you need to try different ammos and see which your rifle likes the most. An ammo that is great in one rifle may not be so good in another. Differences in Barrel Harmonics, Rifling Cuts etc.

The Remington 700 is one of the better Out of The Box bolt action rifles and most will get 1 MOA (approximately 1" at 100 yard) groups when you fine the right ammo or reload it.

Custom rifles in more precise calibers / cartridges can get single hole groups at 100 yards, 6PPC etc. Or 3" groups at 1,000 Yards, 6.5x47L, .338 Lapua. 30mmWSM etc.

What twist rate is in your rifle? That is the first place to start with regard to ammo. Slow Twists usually are best with lighter bullets where heavy high BC projectiles need a fast twist to stabilize. My short range Bench rest rifles have barrels with twist from about 1:13 to 1:14 while my Long Range rifles have twists of 1:8 or 1:7.5

If you really want to ring everything out of your rifle, with the action as it is (not trued) and the factory barrel, I would suggest the following upgrades in the order listed:

First, Replace the Trigger. Minimum Timney, next up is a Timney CE (Calvon Elite) than a Jewel and last a Big-N-Andy . All depends on your budget.

Second, Bed the action and free float the barrel.

After that I would do a lot of shooting and ammo testing or reload testing.

For most the next step would be a better than factory stock and if your want to go all out a truing of the action and competition grade barrel. If you do all of that though, a custom build from the start would be the more practical way to go, but I highly recommend the first two steps above.

You can find Stand Up rifles holders (some based on photo tripods) at places like MidwayUSA.com You will not get the best accuracy shooting that way. A bench with a good rest or a bipod prone or on a bench will do better.

Hope some of this helps. Let us know where you are, what kind of shooting you do and what kind you will be doing with this rifle.

Best, Bob
 

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Bob,

I'm new to shooting on rifle ranges. I've shot a lot with 9mm and .30 Carbine carbines at 100 yards.

Now my plan is to shoot at progressively longer distances with a goal of spending a lot of time between 300 to 500 shooting steel. I suspect I will learn a lot about your pointers above.

Hopefully the political powers here in California will let me seek my goal.
 

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Phil,

Have you shoot at the Sacramento Range that has the 1,000 yard competition? I think it is called something other than Sacramento with regard to the location, but I want to shoot there.

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No, I've not shot on the 1000 yard range.

I'm new to long range shooting. I have two rifles, a Remington 783 and a Remington 700 Long Range.

The range required me to show a tight shot pattern at 100 yards to get permission to shoot on the longer ranges with my rifle. I'm still putting my rifle configuration together and plan to shoot progressively at longer ranges. I am now permitted to shoot on the steel target range 100 to 500 yards and the 100-200 and 300 yard ranges but haven't done so. Paint me green.

https://www.sacvalley.org/range/

I'm not sure what the rules are for out of town non members shooting on other than the short public ranges. I'll check it out and let you know.
 

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What a relief to hear you have confirmed that you can shoot the 1000 yard range. I'm curious, who on staff here did you talk with?

I was worried that the changes around here would get in your way. e.g. The range can no longer sell ammo. Two of the hardest working staff were fired. Annually we signed a Release of Liability form. Now we have to sign one each time we shoot.

Wonder what is next.
 

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Most ranges are very concerned about being shut down and having an accident is one of the ways to have negative exposure. My home range is private and each year the insurance company requires something new to be done in order to continue to provide coverage. Doubt that it will get anything but worse. I started shooting about 60 years ago so I saw what was the Good Old Days for those of us that liked guns. Those days are gone for ever as is so many other things.

I am not sure who it was I talked to, but was told as a member of the PA 1,000 club, if I came to a match, they were open to other shooters and I could shoot the match. Is there a Non-Resident membership available?

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Today while I was at the range, I talked with the Range Officer who assured me after showing him a copy of your communication with our range that you would be welcome to shoot the 1000 yard range. I found his assurance reassuring. He suggested we, you keep a copy of thread where you confirm shooting on your range at 1000 yards.

One thing I do know is the Range 12 shooters get there early and begin as soon as 8 am, the range open commence firing time arrives. I don't know but it may be they get there early enough to go to the pits and setup way before 8 am. I suspect you know the drill better than I do. I'll snoop that out.

When do you plan to arrive? I ask because I have a business appointment all day April 24th.

Today I shot my Rem 783 on the 50 yard line. I felt I need to zero because on last use I dropped the gun on cement. I managed to shoot 7 rounds when suddenly I couldn't load and lock a round. A peak inside the trigger guard and I notice the square piece of metal that is pushed to free up the bolt for removal was not in place--it was about 1/4 inch recessed from its proper location. I'll tinker with that tonight.
 

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Correction.

First the Rem 783 as modified by me does not have a bolt release in the trigger guard housing. It is on the left side top near the bolt.

Second, the reason the bolt would not go into battery was a round not compatible with 30-06SPRNG. That round was head stamped RG 50 7. The base is a MM or so wider in diameter than the 30-06 base. And there is no extractor groove. It does have a cap.

Third, the following rounds in the mag have a head stamp of FNM 70-25. This cartridge is way shorter than the 30-06SPRNG. I don't think I will try to use these.

I'm not sure how these got into my ammo cache, but the moral here is watch your ammo carefully.

So the Rem 783 likes the 30-06SPNG just fine. The rifle is not in need of a gunsmith.
 

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I also carry my membership cards for the two 1,000 yard ranges that I currently am a member at and shoot at. Williamsport for sure is well know among the 1,000 yard Bench Rest shooters.

Are you a member at www.AccurateShooter.com? That is where there is a lot of Long Range 600/800 and 1,000 yard Bench Rest guys, though there are some on Benchrest Central ? Absolute Source for Accuracy Components and Information but that is more for the short range bench rest guys. 100/200 and 300 yards.

I shoot short range at my home club, Maidstone Gun Club as well as Brookhaven and Cherry Ridge and carry a card for them.

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OP, I had shot with the NCPPRC club a few times, both practice and matches. Last time I was there was 2017, exactly the day before the Santa Rosa fires (I live in Santa Rosa, a 2-hr drive one way). They practice every first Saturday of the month. Match follows on Sunday. Here is their forum if you wanted to dive in: NorCal Practical Precision Rifle Club Forum ? Login. Here is their web site: https://ncpprc.com/

It is a very friendly crowd. That's where I learned to shoot beyond 300 yards. I missed going there.

They are mainly a precision rifle club, but any gun to get you started with is okay. I have the same Rem 700 LR 30-06 and that is what I used. Your scope will also play an important role to getting it done.
 

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Williamsport is also a friendly range, but you have to come in person and show proficiency is rifle shooting and produce a rifle that the club deems appropriate for shooting 1,000 yards, prior to you being able to join. Those that shoot 1,000 yard bench rest will attest to the difficulty of the terrain at the Williamsport club. From bench to targets, there are a number of rises and dips, including a road that runs across the range, but at a level that you can not see a car no less hit one. Wind flags TYPICALLY are running a 180 degree different angles as you look down at them from the bench to the target frames. It is now a club where you can bring your hunting rifle to site in for the season and with the exception of a 600 yard target area infrequently used, an 800 yard target area also infrequently used and a 200 yard target area only used for Rim Fire Bench Rest, the one separate 100 yard range with too shooting positions is only used for quick testing. Williamsport rules are also a little different and 10 shot groups are required rather than 5 shot groups at other IBR 1000 yard events. That is why the world record of 2.81 inches stands since that is for 10 shots, while 2" groups have been recorded for 5 shot strings.

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I also have a Remington 700 Long Range in a 30-06 SPRG in a 26” Barrel. I just ordered a Vortex Diamondback 4-12 X 40 SFP scope. Anyone have reviews or opinions on the Vortex Diamondback scopes? Also, I’m thinking of getting a bipod for it, maybe a Harris.
 
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