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Just picked up a 700 Long Range Tactical in .308 win. today, and now am looking for a good scope to top it off. I really like the US Optics products, but they are very pricey... Also really like the Leatherwood Camputer M1000 and 1200s, especially the automatic range correction, as well as the Nikon Monarchs and Leopold Mark 4s if I go for a little more of a hunting scope. Id like something that is somewhat light weight since I hunt with this gun. Any suggestions or advise on these or other good scopes greatly appreciated.
 

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Whats the max range you will shoot with it??
 

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There are so many scopes to choose from! US Optics has some nice scopes... but the price is a little high for me. I'm sure they are worth every penny though!

If you are going to maybe hunt with it also, I would maybe go for a scope in the 40mm range, that way it's not too big, but will still give you a good amount of light gathering to work with.

I like the Mark 4 that I have, so I would suggest one of those if budget allows. Also, the Leupold Mark 2's (yes 2's) are very close to the Mark 4's for about 1/2 to 2/3 the cost. The quality is just the same, accept they save cost by moving the side focus found on the Mark 4's to the front of the scope.
 

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There are so many scopes to choose from! US Optics has some nice scopes... but the price is a little high for me. I'm sure they are worth every penny though!

If you are going to maybe hunt with it also, I would maybe go for a scope in the 40mm range, that way it's not too big, but will still give you a good amount of light gathering to work with.

I like the Mark 4 that I have, so I would suggest one of those if budget allows. Also, the Leupold Mark 2's (yes 2's) are very close to the Mark 4's for about 1/2 to 2/3 the cost. The quality is just the same, accept they save cost by moving the side focus found on the Mark 4's to the front of the scope.
yea I looked at those Mark 2s I liked them. Im thinking power wise Id like to keep it in the 4.5-15ish or 2-12 area... I'm pretty sure I want to go with the Leatherwood M1200 or less powerful M1000, their auto range correction system is top notch and the prices are pretty good. Supposed to be good glass and the customer service is 1st rate. If I had the cash Id prolly go with a US Optics setup or even nightforce, maybe I can find a used one for a good price.

Here is a link to the Leatherwood scopes that I mentioned...

http://www.hi-luxoptics.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=42
 

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Whats the max range you will shoot with it??
well, I'd say the max is going to be 500 meters most of the time, however I would like to lay down some 1000 meter shots. Hunting wise I hunt deer in the east but plan on going out west to hunt elk and varmints at long range.

For now im just using a 3-9 Bushnell Trophy that I have so that should give me an idea of what I will want to move into
 

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I've never heard of the Leatherwood scopes... I'll have to check them out! Thanks for the link!
Yeah the military used them in Vietnam. The glass was not that good then but now it is supposed to be real good. They have the ability to auto range and compensate for bullet drop based on caliber and bullet weight and load... I'll prolly go with the Camputer A.R.T. M-1000 4.5-10x unless I decide I need some more zoom. They are like $450ish for the 1000 and $650ish for the 1200 I think. The 1200 is 6-20 something I think. Basically, you frame the taget in the reticle, focus in, and it corrects for drop just aim right on the crosshairs center.
 

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Have there been many reviews on the scopes. I would be scptical if not many reviews are found. I'm not having a go at them but it sounds to good to be true to me. How accurate are the, reliability, etc.
 

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Have there been many reviews on the scopes. I would be scptical if not many reviews are found. I'm not having a go at them but it sounds to good to be true to me. How accurate are the, reliability, etc.
ive looked on some optics forums and people like them from what ive read. And one you get good at using the ranging system its supposed to be dead on///
 

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Mmm ok then. It looks good but I prefer a more conventional scope personally. Let us know how it goes though mate.
 

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Another question, as for mounting solutions, ill be going with a picatinny rail. As far as angle, should I go for a 0 MOA or go for a rail with angle? What does the angle do?
 

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If you are going to be shooting longer ranges... then I would go with maybe an angled base. I put a 20 MOA 1 piece base on my SPS Tactical.

The angle helps to lift up the back of the scope to help you get adjustments for longer ranges if you scope has limited adjustments. For example, some of the Burris scopes only have about 30 MOA of adjustments... so to get out to long ranges will require an adjustment beyond what the scope is capable of. The angled base would help "give" the scope more adjustments to allow you to get out to a longer range.

I think the Leatherwood scopes require that you have a flat base don't they? Because as you adjust them, it will push up in the back of the scope. At least that's what I saw in the video.
 

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If you are going to be shooting longer ranges... then I would go with maybe an angled base. I put a 20 MOA 1 piece base on my SPS Tactical.

The angle helps to lift up the back of the scope to help you get adjustments for longer ranges if you scope has limited adjustments. For example, some of the Burris scopes only have about 30 MOA of adjustments... so to get out to long ranges will require an adjustment beyond what the scope is capable of. The angled base would help "give" the scope more adjustments to allow you to get out to a longer range.

I think the Leatherwood scopes require that you have a flat base don't they? Because as you adjust them, it will push up in the back of the scope. At least that's what I saw in the video.
yea i figured that, and if i dont get the leatherwood i am getting a tac scope so i should have the adjustment id say.

It's still a toss up b/t the Leatherwood and some kind of traditional scope. I'd say 1000 bucks is the most i want to spend on a scope... So any suggestions for that?
 

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I guess at the upper end of your $1000 limit, your top choice would be the Mark 4. I'm shopping around for another scope right now as well, and I've found that I like to see what's available in each price range. So start at around $500 perhaps... and see what scopes are out there and if they have hte features you want etc. I try to find as many reviews as I can on a particular scope.

At the moment, I'm seriously considering the Bushnell Elite 4200. The price is good and I don't really want to spend more than about $600.

I would even check out some of the Mark 2's. I think a Night Force scope is out of the question... those seem to go for around $2500!

It seems like to find any scope with tactical turrets you would have to start at the $500 price range at least.

Hope that helps some!
 

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you can find a nightForce for around the $1000 mark if you look hard enough and done mind a 2nd hand scope.
 

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I guess at the upper end of your $1000 limit, your top choice would be the Mark 4. I'm shopping around for another scope right now as well, and I've found that I like to see what's available in each price range. So start at around $500 perhaps... and see what scopes are out there and if they have hte features you want etc. I try to find as many reviews as I can on a particular scope.

At the moment, I'm seriously considering the Bushnell Elite 4200. The price is good and I don't really want to spend more than about $600.

I would even check out some of the Mark 2's. I think a Night Force scope is out of the question... those seem to go for around $2500!

It seems like to find any scope with tactical turrets you would have to start at the $500 price range at least.

Hope that helps some!
Yeah I was thinking about that Bushnell as well, heard its nice but not alot of adjustment... Also, anyone know much about the Falcon Menace scopes? supposed to be great for the money according to snipershide
 

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The Bushnell will be better then the FM IMO. A mate of mine thinks the Glas is as good as the VX I he has so he doesnt like it. The Bushnell 4200 with a 20MOA rail will be the ebst bet if going that route.
 

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The Bushnell will be better then the FM IMO. A mate of mine thinks the Glas is as good as the VX I he has so he doesnt like it. The Bushnell 4200 with a 20MOA rail will be the ebst bet if going that route.
ic, however, is the Bushnell a first focal plane scope or not? The Menace 4-14 is FFP mil/mil. i plan to go the mil dot route and was hoping to get a FFP scope over a SFP one.
 

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Howdy ya'll,

Has anyone here tried the Falcon Menace line of scopes, or used one on their rifle? I was wondering about their accuracy, durability and especially repeatability.

Also, has anyone had much experience with the Bushnell 3200 10x40 tactical scope? I have one but have not used it much. What I did notice is that it does not have the ability to deal with parallex.
I was thinking that the quick focus feature might also deal somewhat with parallex, but I am not sure.

And then there is the Super Sniper scope line that also seems affordable. $500 or so.

Can ya'll shed any light on these scopes?

Sincerely,
Dave (Bubba) Thornblom
 

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Howdy ya'll,

Has anyone here tried the Falcon Menace line of scopes, or used one on their rifle? I was wondering about their accuracy, durability and especially repeatability.

Also, has anyone had much experience with the Bushnell 3200 10x40 tactical scope? I have one but have not used it much. What I did notice is that it does not have the ability to deal with parallex.
I was thinking that the quick focus feature might also deal somewhat with parallex, but I am not sure.

And then there is the Super Sniper scope line that also seems affordable. $500 or so.

Can ya'll shed any light on these scopes?

Sincerely,
Dave (Bubba) Thornblom
theres alot on snipers hide about the Menace
 
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