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Here's a pic of my rifle, next to my CZ 75B.



First off, I am completely new to precision shooting. For now, I am just using cheap hunting ammo, as the more expensive match grade ammo would probably be a waste of money at this point. I took it to the range on Friday to see how it shoots. Here's a picture at the 100 yard range.



Here's a picture of some of my grouping at 100 yards. Groups A and B had some really nice 3 shot groups (unfortunately I was shooting five shot groups). Group C has one shot off paper that I marked.



After a while, I decided to try 200 yards. Here's one of my targets from that distance. Just ignore that "group" on the left :rolleyes: and look at the group on the right that is circled and labeled group B. Given the distance, I think this was probably my best grouping of the day.



Overall, I am very happy with the results. I know my groupings will shrink as I get more experience and when I start using match grade ammo. I also know that I really need a new scope. The Vortex Crossfire scope that I have on there now doesn't have enough eye relief and would smack me in the nose almost every shot. This scope was meant to be temporary until I could afford something better anyway, but now I know that I need to pay extra special attention to eye relief when choosing a replacement. A B&C stock is also in the future for this rifle.
 

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That's a nice rifle. Good groups will come with practice. What range is that? Kind of looks like the old San Gabrial Valley Gun Club range.
 

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Nice rifle! Practice makes perfect. I certainly need more and more! And your gun will probably shoot better with match ammo, but it's good to practice with cheap stuff like you are doing for now!
 

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Here's the current iteration of my rifle.



The most obvious change is the optics. I upgraded to a 4-14x50 Gen4 Wotac, as well as an EGW 20MOA base with low Burris XTR rings. Less obvious is that I replaced the stock trigger with a Timney trigger. Not only is the pull a lot better, but just the shape of the trigger is better too. It's noticeably wider and is serrated rather than smooth. I also filled the inside of the stock with BB's to add weight and reduce recoil. I'm not done with it, though. At the very least, I'm still going to replace the stock with a B&C. I should be able to take it shooting on Saturday and I'll post a full range report when I do.
 

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Well, I went shooting a couple weeks ago. I was not able to shoot my rifle as much as I wanted too since ammunitiontogo.com messed up my ammo order (they did straighten in out in the end though, but not until after my range trip) and I did not have all the ammo I was supposed to have. I shot off:

20 rounds American Eagle 168gr OTM
40 rounds Fiocchi 150gr FMJ
40 rounds Federal 150gr SP

I started off with the AE stuff to get my new scope zeroed in. After 5 site in shots, I fired this group:



I'm pretty sure the shot to the left was my fault, so this might be my best grouping ever. Unfortunately, this was really my only group of the day worth showing off. I had a couple other decent groupings with the AE stuff before moving on to the cheaper Fiocchi and Federal ammo. I averaged ~2 MOA with the Federal soft points and ~ 2.5 MOA with the Fiocchi FMJ's at both one and two hundred yards, which really is not bad for a person of my skill. I probably will not buy any more of the Fiocchi ammo in the future though. I really like the American Eagle 168 OTM ammo though and would like to use more of it in the future if I can find it.
 

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I would think the 168 AE would shoot quite well as shown above. Have you thought about trying to get into reloading? It will save you money once you get setup.
 

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I definitely plan on reloading someday. I already save all my brass for when I do. But I have other stuff I would like to buy first. I'd like to get an AR-15 and maybe a second handgun first. After I have those, reloading equipment is the next thing I'd like to invest in.
 

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Hey,CZREMINGTON GUY Where did the box mag setup come from? and does it feed reliably?
that is not standard for those rifles.
 

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CZRemingtonGuy said:
I definitely plan on reloading someday. I already save all my brass for when I do. But I have other stuff I would like to buy first. I'd like to get an AR-15 and maybe a second handgun first. After I have those, reloading equipment is the next thing I'd like to invest in.

Yes, AR's are a "must have at least one" in my book! :D I've purchased a Rock River Arms AR within the last year, and the quality is top notch! Will you have to get a CA legal version? I think they can't have a detachable magazine or something?
 

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Yes, the drop box magazine, it appears in your photos that your rifle has a box magazine.
those sps guns come with hinged floor plate,not a box magazine.I have two of those rifles
and sell them in the gun store I work.
 

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Thats a Arms Tech Mag Xtender I think. Same as the one on mine.
 

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dratt1957 said:
Hey,CZREMINGTON GUY Where did the box mag setup come from? and does it feed reliably?
that is not standard for those rifles.
It's an Arms Tech Mag Xtender, available here:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=818519

It's a pretty good device for only $20. It is not a detachable magazine, it's really just an extended floor plate which increases the magazine capacity from 4 to 7 rounds. So far it's fed 100% reliably for me.


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Yes, AR's are a "must have at least one" in my book! :D I've purchased a Rock River Arms AR within the last year, and the quality is top notch! Will you have to get a CA legal version? I think they can't have a detachable magazine or something?
Yes, I will have to make a CA legal one. The best way to do so is to buy a stripped lower receiver and build it yourself. The easiest way to make it CA legal is to use what's called a "bullet button." According to CA law, the gun cannot have a detachable magazine, but there is an exemption if the magazine requires a tool to be removed. There are several different bullet buttons, but the one I plan on getting is a B-16 bullet button which attaches right over the mag release and requires a pointy object (which counts as the tool) to release the mag. The nice thing about the B-16 is that it only takes the right sized allen wrench and five seconds to remove if I ever travel to a free state (as those of us in CA like to call them) that doesn't have such ridiculous laws. If you would like to know more about CA legal AR-15's (or really CA legal semi-auto rifles in general), read this:

http://www.riflegear.com/t-evilfeatures.aspx
 

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Thanks for the reply,was not sure if that was a extender or a box conversion? I have seen them
on brownells web site,but not on a rifle.
 
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