[mic700vtr]

Hi all,
New member here from Sydney Australia. Just picked my new 700vtr in 308 yesterday and i have to say im very happy.
It seems there a few people out there on various forums who dont have much time for the new VTR look but for me i think it looks and shoots great.
Hope to chat soon
Michael

 

[andrew21]

Hi Michael, the VTR does have a different look, might take some people some time to get use to the look. Its a remington 700 so I have no doubt it shoots real good. Do you find the muzzle break helps with muzzle jump or you can't notice? You'll have to post some photo's and give us some details.

 

[Quick]

G';day mate. Nice to see some more aussies round here. I was interesting in the VTR but the stock, well, I hate it. And the muzzle break means I cant use if for F-Class soo im going with a SPS Tactical. I cant wait for some pics mate. How about the specs on it??

 

[El Chorizo]

Welcome to the forums! The VTR certainly does have a unique look! Yes I would like to see some photos of it also!

 

[mrodff]

i was going to get the vtr but i heard that the differences the vtr from the regular sps are mostly cosmetic.. the triangled barrel means less weight for you gun= less accuracy and the muzzle break just makes the working length of the barrel 20" and for $200 extra for less accuracy... no thanks

 

[thornblom]

i was going to get the vtr but i heard that the differences the vtr from the regular sps are mostly cosmetic.. the triangled barrel means less weight for you gun= less accuracy and the muzzle break just makes the working length of the barrel 20" and for $200 extra for less accuracy... no thanks

You did the right thing backing away from the 700 VTR. I had one in .223 and it was a dog. Accuracy was about 1 1/4" at 100 yards for 5 shots. I tried mine for about 3 to 4 weeks and sold it. Good riddence. The triangle barrel did nothing for accuracy, the stock sucked, the muzzle break being integral with the barrle made the effective barrel length only 20". And that muzzle break made the .223 sound louder than a .243. Like you said, more money for less performance. I hope that has not become the American way.

Sincerely,
Dave (Bubba) Thornblom

 

[upsrogue]

Hi I'm new to the forum but a question
I have heard that IF you can get one of theses to shoot good if you keep shooting when the barrel heats up it will string the shots up and down, because of the triangle shape of the barrel the barrel hormonics is destroyed the group will stay together but will string. Has anybody had this problem?
I will post some pics of my 700s

 

[bigrick]

I love my VTR and it shoots every bit as good as my SPS. Don't believe the naysayers on the web. Several of the guys around here have them and they shoot very well.

Here is a target from the other day.

 

[upsrogue]

Thanks for the reply bigrick
I don't want to believe the naysayers
I own 5 Rem 700's (2 are 40X's) I love the guns and the design but you are the first I have heard from that is positive about the VTR model.
Hey maybe I'm just talking to the wrong people!!
But if you will allow me to pick apart your target example, not knowing about the caliber, range, how many shots have been fired ect. even tho that is a nice tight group it looks at least to me that it is starting to "string up"
A buddy of mine told me that he would shoot his VTR about 10 rounds and his shot string would raise 2 to 5" but stay in a straight line going up. He is not the only one that I have heard this from. He loved the gun he just could not control this problem. He said he had talked to a gunsmith about it and the smith said any gun would shoot that way with any odd shaped, not round barrel, because when the barrel heats up the barrel harmanics are thrown out of wack, it makes sense to me.
I just hope its not Remingtons way of making a cheaper cost gun and selling it because it looks "cool" if the design is wrong its wrong.
Sorry for ripping up your target example like that.
Thanks

 

[bigrick]

Thanks for the reply bigrick
I don't want to believe the naysayers
I own 5 Rem 700's (2 are 40X's) I love the guns and the design but you are the first I have heard from that is positive about the VTR model.
Hey maybe I'm just talking to the wrong people!!
But if you will allow me to pick apart your target example, not knowing about the caliber, range, how many shots have been fired ect. even tho that is a nice tight group it looks at least to me that it is starting to "string up"
A buddy of mine told me that he would shoot his VTR about 10 rounds and his shot string would raise 2 to 5" but stay in a straight line going up. He is not the only one that I have heard this from. He loved the gun he just could not control this problem. He said he had talked to a gunsmith about it and the smith said any gun would shoot that way with any odd shaped, not round barrel, because when the barrel heats up the barrel harmanics are thrown out of wack, it makes sense to me.
I just hope its not Remingtons way of making a cheaper cost gun and selling it because it looks "cool" if the design is wrong its wrong.
Sorry for ripping up your target example like that.
Thanks

That is no problem this is 5 shots at 100 yards and I have yet to modify the stock or bed the action. The top part of the string is 3 shots and I pulled two of the shots a little low. Like most this is one of several 700s I own and Remington's new Soft stocks do leave a little to be desired.

This target was shot my first time out with the gun but I shot several 5 shot groups and did not see stringing with the rifle. This gun is new off the shelf with a Bushnell 6500 scope which was purchased in December. I fully expect once I have worked up loads for this gun and are not using ammo built for one of my other rifles this gun will be a keeper.

I am partial to HS or Bell and Calrson stocks but I see nothing wrong with this gun just as it sits. It shoots better than most shooters can shoot right out of the box. Mine is a sub MOA gun as it sits.

In the past couple of years I have purchased several used Remingtons that the owner said shot poorly but what I have found is that most people who say they have a bad gun actually need something to blame their poor shooting on other than themselves.

I am sorry but mine is a 308 and this is a 155 grain handload.

 

[upsrogue]

Well it sounds like you are already ahead of the game (rather this bad rumor of problems is right or wrong) because of the 308 chambering, if you are a reloader you can do some astonishing things with a so called "bad shooter" just by playing with a load and the 308 gives you plenty of field to play with.
Then you can take some screws loose and see if you have more problems or not.
That's why I like Remingtons so well, you take it out of the box and make sure the screws are tight, put a good scope on it and BINGO your in the game.
I was at the range the other day and the guy next to me mentioned that his 308 would only group about 2" at 100 yrds. I asked what weight grain bullet are you using and whats the twist on your gun? he said thats getting to technical I don't know and I don't want to know. End of story

 

[El Chorizo]

The above target is certainly eveidence they can shoot well. I suppoe it's possible to get a "lemon" though.

I consider most of my shooting issues related to my skill or lack there of!

My SPS Tactical in .308 didn't shoot really well right away. I had to work up a load... and practice. Maybe the VTR's are just a little more touchy.

 

[Doug308]

Welcome to the community.